you know the one who termed it, the person who coined the term looks like it was ben bernanke, federal reserve chairman. he used the term earlier this year. so also at the same time, we've got health reform coming in with new levies on investment. >> gretchen: new taxes? that would be coming at the same time. this is up to congress or the president? who needs to do something? >> here is the issue, depends on who wins and how the lay of the land will g depending on who wins the election. if the president wins reelection, you'll possibly see gridlock. now the talk is to just let them expire temporarily and then do a quick fix for everybody but the upper bracket, so that way you could say look, we passed a tax cut and we did raise taxes on the upper bracket. if mitt romney, then he'll probably say i need time to fashion a budget. i'll have to do this in 2013. there may be delay. in that case, in either scenario, the u.s. congress would say to the irs look, adjust the tax withholding tables and so until we deal with this. so it's not an open and shut case. everybody will see their tax rate